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November 28, 2010
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Stacy’s photo bomb — the cherry on top of my Sunday! Heh heh
Stacy, Thanks so much for these great pictures and taking the time to share them with us. Some I have never seen before.
stacy, what’s your reaction to the wikileaks release?
I have only read summaries and haven’t gone to the actual documents themselves. It’s embarrassing for the US govt. One of the things that comes across is how woefully corrupt and inept afghan leaders are- Karzai sounds like he’s totally mentally unstable and we seem to be just throwing cash at he and his family in the hopes he’ll keep his paranoia under wraps- clearly it’s not working. His brother was allegedly found in an airport (not in Afghanistan) with 53 million dollars on his person- wtf? Is that our tax dollars he’s walking around with?
A lot of it is gossipy and hardly counts as “need to know”-type stuff that I associate with whistleblowers. A lot of it makes the US look amateurish and petty. Where there may be questionably illegal things going on, that’s different, and troubling.
The media is focusing on stuff it wants to focus on and if you look at international coverage, they sometimes have a different take on all of this. A commentator in Britain has said the US comes across like n wounded bear lashing out at everyone and everything, with little effect, paying off people and nations in order to get them in line. Naturally, Israel has already come out and said “see, we are right about Iran” ignoring the cables about how the US knows Israel overstates the threat. The media is focusing a lot on Iran because for some reason the media is really obsessed with Iran. Kind of like they were with Iraq.
I think at the end of the day, just like with all the other releases, this too shall pass, for better or worse I don’t know.
I have no problem with Wikileaks’ disclosures. Ironic that the US govt permits itself to wiretap US citizens without warrants and allows corporations to build databases on us based on our internet travels, but they think they still should get privacy. It’s a new world…
Interesting to see how we are still so influenced by the Saudi government. Wikileaks shows that the Saudis are still funding AQ. The 9/11 bombers were primarily from Saudi Arabia – not Iraqi or Afghan or Iranian. The Saudi system created, propagated and financed Wahabism, the fundamentalistic extremist branch of the Sunni religion. Yet we prop up their government with billions of dollars of arms sales and bases. That government is about as far from a democracy as is possible.
And I recommend NOT using the NY Times as anyone’s primary source for Wikileaks info. The Guardian has excellent coverage.
Agreed. The NYT is being the NYT. Iran, Iran, Iran. We want to focus only on Iran but our allies in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Pakistan seem to be as involved in terrorism as Iran. And naturally the reasons for Saudi Arabia wanting the US to take care of Iran are totally self-serving. But the neocons are THRILLED that they can use some of this to make the case for war with Iran.
Correct me if I am wrong but the NYT was not given these documents/filed directly like the Guardian, Le Monde, der spiegel, etc. and instead obtained them thru other sources? I keep reading that everywhere. I also keep reading that the NYT went through the info. WITH the State Dept. and agreed to remove some information/not publish some information etc.
Regarding the NYT’s access to Wikileaks, below is what I read on the Guardian’s website:
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The Guardian got hold of the cables from WikiLeaks and then deliberately shared them with the New York Times, according to a blogpost on the US news site the Cutline.
David Leigh, the Guardian’s investigations executive editor, told The Cutline in an email that “we got the cables from WL” – meaning WikiLeaks – and “we gave a copy to the NYT”.
It’s not everyday that a newspaper gives valuable source material to a competitor. But Leigh explained in a second email that British law “might have stopped us through injunctions [gag orders] if we were on our own.”
From msnbc:
“Disclosures about U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to curb Iran’s nuclear program are a surprise public relations windfall for Israel, a former Israeli national security adviser said on Monday.
The secret cables showed Israel trying to prod a sometimes skeptical Washington into tougher action — such as sanctions, subversion, and even a military strike by 2011 — against Tehran.
“If there is something on the Iranian issue that, in my opinion, happens to help Israel, it is that these leaks show that Arab countries like Saudi Arabia are far more interested in Iran than they are in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, for example,” Giora Eiland, a retired Israeli general who served as national security adviser to former prime ministers Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert, told Israel Radio.
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So typical.
BTW, Secy Clinton will speak to this at 1pm today at the State Dept. I have a feeling she’s not taking questions.