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SOS Hillary Clinton’s Interview with Nightline

November 10, 2010

I haven’t watched this yet- it aired last night. It’s a joint interview with Secretary Clinton and Defense Secretary Gates.

Iraq and Afghanistan are kind of sore spots with me so I’m not super eager to see this. And after Secretary Gates’ remarks about DADT in Australia the other day I’m really annoyed with him, more so than usual. All of a sudden after two years of stalling and telling Congress not to rush things, he wants the Dems to hurry up and overturn it, you know, now that they no longer have control of the House and there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of that happening.

Now apparently the WH is going to walk back it’s withdrawal date for Afghanistan. No surprise there. Apparently we also have no intention of leaving Iraq.

Given the above, I’m having a hard time seeing the truth in Senator Barack Obama’s claim during the 2008 primaries that he would have voted against the Iraq War had he actually had the opportunity to do so. Apparently he wants to draw down in Afghanistan but the military and the hawks don’t want that, so he’s caving. Same thing in Iraq.

7 Comments leave one →
  1. Josh permalink
    November 10, 2010 4:50 pm

    I was waiting for that.

    Thank you for posting it.

    תיירות גאה

  2. Steve permalink
    November 10, 2010 6:35 pm

    It wasn’t a bad interview but it was basically a repetition of everything the two of them say each time they are interviewed. You know, the defense party line.

    As for Gates, I don’t really trust him. He’s been a defense/CIA insider forever and he always seems to say the right thing but I’m not buying what he’s selling. I agree with Stacy- his foot-dragging on DADT only turn around now and be like “hey man, you need to overturn this like yesterday!” is totally disingenuous.

  3. Vcal permalink
    November 10, 2010 10:56 pm

    I loved the interview, and the fact that Hillary gets along very well with practically everybody! Thank you Stacyx for all your hard work!

  4. Carolyn-Rodham permalink
    November 11, 2010 10:03 am

    It’s safe to watch, stacy – just a brief segment, defending the surge in Afghanistan, saying things look ever so much rosier on the ground. Otherwise, it’s a puff piece, but I was startled to hear Gates say, when asked if Hillary should replace him — he actually interrupted her to say it — “Secretary Clinton’s greatest strength is as spokesperson for American foreign policy abroad. That’s not what the Secretary of Defense does.” I don’t want her to take the job, but that was sort of an odd non-endosement from a man who supposedly has such a great relationship with her.

  5. Thain permalink
    November 11, 2010 11:07 am

    OT: The folks who made this website were pretty clever. Team Obama should hire them since their political/messaging team has been asleep at the wheel.

    http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

    The dems need to get some fight back in them. I’m not shilling for Obama, but most of the attacks from the Tea Party have been utter nonsense. Of course, a criticism of Obama would be that it’s sometimes not what he’s done, but how he’s gone about doing it and sometimes watered down his initiatives to the point where they may not be effective.

    The media pundits are pushing for Obama to move to the right, which of course will benefit corporate media and the high paid shills like Tom Friedman. I guess they won’t mind when the dem base doesn’t come out to vote for them in 2012 in large numbers. So now the WH thinks they’ll extend ALL of the Bush tax cuts. No principles. If anything was a winning issue it was extending tax cuts for all but the top 3-5% but no, Obama is going to cave just like he has been doing with anything having to do with the military/war and foreign policy.

    ps. Secretary Gates is a snake. I don’t trust him. If anything has happened he’s gobbled up more control of the diplomatic corps than ever before by simply militarizing them, all with Hillary’s stamp of approval. And what has the Defense Dept. given up despite all their talk of reducing it’s size and funding? Nada, zilch, zero. So I don’t really see how all this wonderful cooperation and friendship between Hillary and good ‘ole Bob is helping the State Dept. in terms of man/woman power, funding, expanding turf, etc.

    • filipino-american4hrc permalink
      November 11, 2010 12:29 pm

      “he’s gobbled up more control of the diplomatic corps than ever before by simply militarizing them, all with Hillary’s stamp of approval”

      I think this part of your statement — “all with Hillary’s stamp of approval” — is inaccurate . From what I’ve read and heard (interviews and congressional hearings) since they both assumed office under Obama, Gates has been vocal about giving back to State functions that the military had to assume since the ‘war on terrah,” and Hillary herself from the beginning has tried to beef up State and USAID personnel so that both could take back the responsibilities that had been shifted to the military. Of course, unlike the military, State is hampered by various bureaucratic rules that renders it less effective than the ground commander who has tons of money and operational flexibility. Also, if you read about the last budget hearing before the Senate adjourned, Democratic and Republican Senators alike cut State’s budget for Iraq operations, notwithstanding the fact that it’s State that will now be fully responsible for their people’s security. US foreign policy has been militarized since Bush II, and unless Obama changes the balance — by withdrawing troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, drastically scaling back proxy wars and cutting the defense budget the way Bill Clinton did — US foreign policy will remain largely militarized, whether Gates or any in the military wanted it or not.

      • Thain permalink
        November 11, 2010 12:50 pm

        I understand that a lot depends on Congress and politics. But I don’t trust Gates and while he’s talking a good game, I don’t see the effects of his belief that more of his turf should be taken over by the State Dept. as opposed to the other way around. Also, what did Gates do to advocate for Congress to not slash State’s budget? Anything? He has a lot of sway with the hawks on the Hill. He’s pushing for defense cuts but he probably knows, just like with DADT, it’ll never happen so it’s a win-win for him. He gets to sound like he’s for reducing defense spending while at the same time having even MORE money tossed at him!

        I don’t really feel like squabbling right now, but two articles I remember reading a while back come to mind:

        http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/iraq/state-dept-planning-to-field-a-small-army-in-iraq-1.111839

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/state-department-should-h_b_739041.html

        And then there is the hundreds of millions of dollars of defense contracts the State Dept. quietly handed to Blackwater recently- something Stacy blogged about at the time but interestingly no one commented on. We literally have private mercenaries fighting our wars (so we won’t need a draft and thus endless wars will remain largely acceptable).

        AGain, I understand this isn’t all Hillary’s doing, but I see continued military creep into the State Dept, not the other way around. Yes, diplomats need security but this goes above and beyond anything that has been done before. Also, it seems like Hillary has consistenly supported INCREASING our military footprint in Iraq and Afghanistan, not the other way around, which is why the hawks and the GOP love her (or say they do). She and Gates both argued for more troops in AFghanistan and were for essentially giving the Generals any damn thing they asked for. At least according to Bob Woodward’s recent book, which I finished reading about a week ago.

        Defense doesn’t give up it’s turf easily, and I see no sign they have any intention of giving ANY up, even if it should squarely fall under diplomacy.

        I don’t want this to sound overly critical but at the end of the day, we become more militarized, not less, and it doesn’t seem like its changing anytime soon.

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