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The More Things Change, The More Things Stay the Same

November 27, 2010

Hat tip to Steve Clemons over at the Washington Note.

And then of course bragging that he undermined Oslo and took on Bill Clinton and used security as an excuse to grab more land during the peace process:

Partial transcript from Richard Silverstein:

Bibi:…The Arabs are currently focusing on a war of terror and they think it will break us. The main thing, first of all, is to hit them. Not just one blow, but blows that are so painful that the price will be too heavy to be borne. The price is not too heavy to be borne, now. A broad attack on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to the point of being afraid that everything is collapsing…

Woman: Wait a moment, but then the world will say “how come you’re conquering again?”

Netanyahu: the world won’t say a thing. The world will say we’re defending.

Woman: Aren’t you afraid of the world, Bibi?

Netanyahu: Especially today, with America. I know what America is. America is something that can easily be moved. Moved to the right direction.

Child: They say they’re for us, but, it’s like…

Netanyahu: They won’t get in our way. They won’t get in our way.

Child: On the other hand, if we do some something, then they…

Netanyahu: So let’s say they say something. So they said it! They said it! 80% of the Americans support us. It’s absurd. We have that kind of support and we say “what will we do with the…” Look. That administration [Clinton] was extremely pro-Palestinian. I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there. I was not afraid to clash with Clinton. I was not afraid to clash with the United Nations. I was paying the price anyway, I preferred to receive the value. Value for the price.

In the following segment, Bibi boasts about how he emptied the Oslo Accords of meaning by an interpretation that made a mockery of them:

Woman: The Oslo Accords are a disaster.

Netanyahu: Yes. You know that and I knew that…The people [nation] has to know…

What were the Oslo Accords? The Oslo Accords, which the Knesset signed, I was asked, before the elections: “Will you act according to them?” and I answered: “yes, subject to mutuality and limiting the retreats.” “But how do you intend to limit the retreats?” “I’ll give such interpretation to the Accords that will make it possible for me to stop this galloping to the ’67 [armistice] lines. How did we do it?

Television Narrator: The Oslo Accords stated at the time that Israel would gradually hand over territories to the Palestinians in three different pulses, unless the territories in question had settlements or military sites. This is where Netanyahu found a loophole.

Netanyahu: No one said what defined military sites. Defined military sites, I said, were security zones. As far as I’m concerned, the Jordan Valley is a defined military site.

Woman: Right [laughs]…The Beit She’an Valley.

Netanyahu: How can you tell. How can you tell? But then the question came up of just who would define what Defined Military Sites were. I received a letter – to my and to Arafat, at the same time – which said that Israel, and only Israel, would be the one to define what those are, the location of those military sites and their size. Now, they did not want to give me that letter, so I did not give the Hebron Agreement. I stopped the government meeting, I said: “I’m not signing.” Only when the letter came, in the course of the meeting, to my and to Arafat, only then did I sign the Hebron Agreement. Or rather, ratify it, it had already been signed. Why does this matter? Because at that moment I actually stopped the Oslo Accord.

Woman: And despite that, one of our own people, excuse me, who knew it was a swindle, and that we were going to commit suicide with the Oslo Accord, gives them – for example – Hebron…

Netanyahu: Indeed, Hebron hurts. It hurts. It’s the thing that hurts. One of the famous rabbis, whom I very much respect, a rabbi of Eretz Yisrael, he said to me: “What would your father say?” I went to my father. Do you know a little about my father’s position?

…He’s not exactly a lily-white dove, as they say. So my father heard the question and said: “Tell the rabbi that your grandfather, Rabbi Natan Milikowski, was a smart Jew. Tell him it would be better to give two percent than to give a hundred percent. And that’s the choice here. You gave two percent and in that way you stopped the withdrawal. Instead of a hundred percent.” The trick is not to be there and be broken. The trick is to be there and pay a minimal price.

It’s a good think the MSM pretended this video of Bibi didn’t surface last year or else people might understand exactly what’s going on (and also what really happened at Oslo).

3 Comments leave one →
  1. Tovah permalink
    November 27, 2010 10:34 am

    I’m afraid that if every single American saw these two videos then support for Israel would plummet. I guess that’s why about 99.99% of people haven’t seen these videos.

  2. Thain permalink
    November 27, 2010 10:50 am

    The strategic ally myth:

    http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/05/26/the-strategic-ally-myth/

    BTW, Giraldi is a former CIA officer, who knows a bit about intelligence and its value

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7060/is_11_7/ai_n28529262/pg_6/

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/09/israeli_spies_pitching_us_musl.html

    “The CIA took an internal poll not long ago about friendly foreign intelligence agencies.

    The question, mostly directed to employees of the clandestine service branch, was: Which are the best allies among friendly spy services, in terms of liaison with the CIA, and which are the worst? In other words, who acts like, well, friends?

    “Israel came in dead last,” a recently retired CIA official told me the other day.

    Not only that, he added, throwing up his hands and rising from his chair, “the Israelis are number three, with China number one and Russia number two,” in terms of how aggressive they are in their operations on U.S. soil.

    Israel’s undercover operations here, including missions to steal U.S. secrets, are hardly a secret at the FBI, CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. From time to time, in fact, the FBI has called Israeli officials on the carpet to complain about a particularly brazen effort to collect classified or other sensitive information, in particular U.S. technical and industrial secrets…”

    Yeah, they are a real strategic asset all right!

  3. KMF permalink
    November 28, 2010 12:30 pm

    A while back there was a discussion in the comments about whether the media is biased for Israel. Here is a round-up of headlines NOT in the U.S. media but which the rest of the world reads about. Yet we wonder why the rest of the world criticizes Israel openly when the US refuses to? Probably because the rest of the world is better informed about what Israel is ACTUALLY doing on a day to day basis.

    Headlines:

    Bad Intentions: New Jerusalem Settlements and the Prospects for Peace

    Israel pulls down West Bank mosque

    Israeli military destroys West Bank farmers’ road

    Israel razes Palestinian home in E.Jerusalem (AFP)

    Israel erases Palestinian village of Abul Ajaj from map

    More Bedouin structures demolished in Jordan Valley

    WATCH: The Battle for Al-Walaja, Palestine Monitor

    Jewish settlers move into house after Israeli police evict Palestinian family

    Palestinians clash with IDF over West Bank demolitions

    Troops Invade Villages in Hebron, Install Several Roadblocks

    Palestinian family evicted from East Jerusalem home claimed by Israeli rightists

    Israeli forces enter Gaza, uproot trees

    Ethnically Cleansing East Jerusalem,Stephen Lendman

    Knesset to vote on bill outlawing Palestinians from living in ‘48-occupied land

    Israeli authorities planning to eject 100,000 Palestinians from Jerusalem

    Israeli authorities raze Araqib village for the seventh time

    Armed settlers bar farmers from land

    Jewish settlers set fire to girls school while expanding Rahalim settlement

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