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Flashback: The Obama Administration Thinks the UN Security Council is the Perfect Place to Resolved Deadlocked International Disputes…

February 19, 2011

…When those disputes don’t involve Israel as the violator of international law.

Remember this?:

[January 2010] The Obama Administration is drawing up a list of tough new sanctions against Iran in preparation for a possible UN Security Council vote within weeks.

… Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, held talks with her counterparts from both countries in London this week, urging them to recognise that their efforts at negotiating a halt to Iran’s nuclear programme had failed.

Mrs Clinton said that the world had “little choice but to apply further pressure” after a year of fruitless negotiations over what Western and Arab governments believe to be a covert Iranian nuclear weapons programme.

“Fruitless negotiations?” Gee, that sounds an awful lot like decades of Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations and all the while the settlements keep covering the land.

Oh, but wait…

Fast forward to 2011 and Israel:

[February 18, 2011] Stuck in a diplomatic bind, the Obama administration scrambled Thursday to avert a difficult UN Security Council vote on a Palestinian-backed resolution condemning Israeli settlements. President Barack Obama raised the subject in a call with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas after other attempts to sway him failed.

…the United States also does not want the Security Council to take up the issue, arguing it would complicate peace negotiations.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Security Council vote planned Friday would be counterproductive as the United States focuses on advancing talks that will lead to a two-state solution.

“We have consistently over many years said that the United Nations Security Council and resolutions that would come before the Security Council are not the right vehicle to advance that goal,” she said at a news conference after a briefing with senators.

So I guess the next time the US brings an issue about Iran or North Korea to the Security Council, the other member nations like Russia and China should stand up and say “you know, United States, we really don’t think this is the right vehicle to enhance the goals…it might simply be counterproductive and harden the positions of the parties and hurt the diplomatic process. The only way for you to resolve this is to sit down with Iran in face-to-face negotiations and work this out. The international community really can’t impose a solution.”

20 Comments leave one →
  1. Steve permalink
    February 19, 2011 6:11 pm

    So I guess the next time the US brings an issue about Iran or North Korea to the Security Council, the other member nations like Russia and China should stand up and say “you know, United States, we really don’t think this is the right vehicle to enhance the goals…it might simply be counterproductive and harden the positions of the parties and hurt the diplomatic process. The only way for you to resolve this is to sit down with Iran in face-to-face negotiations and work this out. The international community really can’t impose a solution.”

    ROTFL

    Can you imagine? I’d pay money to see that.

    Why do I have the feeling you are one bad-ass lawyer! I mean that in a good way😉

  2. Thain permalink
    February 19, 2011 6:23 pm

    Yeah, I’d hate to be on the other side of the courtroom from Stacy.🙂 Let me guess, she was the President of the debating society at school?

    Hey look- we won’t talk to Hamas because they use violence but we are talking to the Taliban because, ummm, uh, eh, just because dammit!

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/19/us-in-direct-talks-with-taliban-new-yorker/

  3. hillaryhero permalink
    February 19, 2011 6:30 pm

    Just close down this fucking blog already. If you can’t be on board with what the admin is doing then don’t have a blog devoted to it.

    Stop your whining already

    • Tovah permalink
      February 19, 2011 7:03 pm

      I see the idiots are out in force today.

    • stacyx permalink*
      February 19, 2011 8:41 pm

      You are in luck- I am planning on going on permanent hiatus from this blog. There’s no point in me continuing to blog about a foreign policy I totally disagree with. I will always respect Hillary Clinton, but I guess I just expected this administration to live up to their initial promises. This UN vote just reaffirms that they are no different than any other administration and they are unwilling to demonstrate real leadership. I could just blame Obama, but the fact is, it wouldn’t be different under Hillary, at least with respect to foreign policy. I know no one wants to read a blog devoted to Secy Clinton that becomes nothing but criticism and so I think it would be best if I just go blog over at Taylor Marsh about foreign policy and politics in general or start another politics blog.

      • Carolyn-Rodham permalink
        February 19, 2011 11:32 pm

        Oh no! Please don’t close down this blog! I’m a huge fan of Hillary’s but that doesn’t mean I won’t brook any criticism of her and of our government’s foreign policy — especially when said criticism is respectful, objective, and informative. I think there are plenty of Clintonistas out there who aren’t blinded by our admiration for her. It’s important for people to hear/read what you have to say. Plus, you put together a dynamite Sunday photo bomb.😉
        I will be devastated and bereft if you abandon this, truly. ‘Course that’s just one person’s vote but I’m sure I speak for many others.

        • Terry permalink
          February 20, 2011 5:04 am

          I second that. I don’t agree with all your opinions but I do like to hear them. You make me think. This blog may not have turned into what you originally intended but these discussions are lively and useful. I think even Secy Clinton would agree.

  4. Zion permalink
    February 19, 2011 6:44 pm

    Stacy is anti-Israel and part of the campaign to delegitimize Israel. Thank goodness Hillary Clinton supports Israel unconditionally. You could learn something from her Stacy. Israel keeps the middle east safe and they are our most important ally. You and your fellow Islamofascists need to get a life.

    • Thain permalink
      February 19, 2011 6:56 pm

      Israel keeps the middle east safe…

      Bwwaaaah!

      Thanks for stopping by Zion, but now it’s time for you to get back to the Herliya conference so you can help plan keeping “the middle east safe”…

      http://www.thenation.com/article/158547/letter-herzliya-neocon-woodstock

    • Carolyn-Rodham permalink
      February 19, 2011 11:55 pm

      @Zion
      Less than a year ago, I was staunchly, fiercely pro-Israel. I applauded the construction of the barrier. I supported the blockade. I regarded Palestinians as actual or potential terrorists hell bent on the destruction of Israel and utterly intransigent when it came to negotiating in good faith for peace. I was a little uncomfortable with the ever-expanding settlements because it seemed
      unnecessarily provocative. I had no idea
      they were actually illegal. In short, I didn’t know what I was talking about.

      Then I started reading this blog and all I can say is that by keeping an open mind, being willing to entertain alternative points of view, and weighing the facts presented here in an objective manner, I have
      come around to an entirely different point of view — I still love Israel and will continue to defend her right to exist, but believe the current government is taking the country in a very destructive direction and seriously undermining Israel’s standing in the world and her long term safety. Netanyahu is arrogant and short-sighted.

      I also love Hillary and continue to hope she stays in public office and runs for President in 2016, but that doesn’t mean I have to support every single foreign policy decision she advances.

      And don’t you dare call me an anti-Semite because you would really be exposing your ignorance.

  5. obamasucks permalink
    February 19, 2011 7:40 pm

    I have an idea, why don’t the Palestinians go “occupy” Tel Aviv and then lets see whether Hillary Clinton thinks the UN is an inappropriate venue to resolve disputes involving Israel and the Palestinians.

    Why don’t the Palestinians rise up and just go bring Jerusalem to a screeching halt? Hundreds of thousands could just go sit in the streets and demand justice. Or have they just become so beaten into submission that they don’t have the will? Of course it would be dangerous because we know the IDF has no qualms about killing unarmed civilians and the US will merely look the other way and urge “restraint” on both sides.

    Do Palestinians in Jerusalem have freedom of movement from the Arab towns to the Jewish ones? They carry identification cards that say they aren’t Jewish, right? How does that work? Maybe then they couldn’t all get to one place without the IDF preventing it?

    • Carolyn-Rodham permalink
      February 20, 2011 12:02 am

      That’s my idea! There are 250,000 Arabs in East Jerusalem with green cards. Even if only 10% of them pulled together to organize peaceful protests, it would be front page news all over the world. I don’t think the Israeli government would dare stage a violent crackdown of its own citizens — unless they want to lose all credibility as the “only democracy in the MidEast.”

  6. Seamus permalink
    February 19, 2011 11:09 pm

    Israeli forces torture Palestinian kids to punish parents who protest the occupation:

    http://uruknet.com/?p=m75151&hd=&size=1&l=e

    If I was treated like that, or someone I loved was, I’d take up arms too

  7. HillaryFan permalink
    February 20, 2011 9:18 am

    Stacy- no way, no how, no shutting down this blog.

    People come here because they like hillary, like politics or foreign policy and like debate. If some people DON’T like that then they can go elsewhere. Different people probably come for different reasons. The fact is, some people DO get blinded by personalities and loyalty to a politician but the idea that loving/respecting Hillary means agreeing with every single thing this administration or even she does is just nonsense. In fact, I’m willing to bet many, many people don’t agree with this administration even if they are hard core Obama supporters.

    You have a good mix of videos, photos, news and commentary – something for everyone. You’ve always been very tolerant of people who disagree with you which is something that I can’t say about a lot of blogs even some pro-Hillary blogs. I sometimes have seen links to this site on serious news and foreign policy sites and I bet that’s BECAUSE you are willing to do critical commentary of issues.

    So no, you aren’t shutting this website down. Besides, how will know how Ziggy and Scooter are doing?🙂

  8. February 20, 2011 1:16 pm

    Thank you, that’s very nice. At times I let my frustration with Obama’s policies get the best of me, particularly in a few key areas that are personally very important to me and have been for quite a while- Israel-Palestine and China/Tibet.

    • Carolyn-Rodham permalink
      February 20, 2011 4:59 pm

      Someone’s got to keep ’em honest. You’ve got my vote.

  9. Danielle permalink
    February 22, 2011 7:58 pm

    Remember when Brazil and Turkey got Iran to sign the deal the P5+1 was demanding for ages and the very next day the SC was voting more sanctions =DDD??

    Yeah…

  10. February 22, 2013 4:17 pm

    I think it’s cute that Obama and Clinton are good friends.

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