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Tuesday April 5th 2011 Daily Appointments for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

April 5, 2011

7:45 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Vice President Biden, at the Vice President’s residence.

12:10 p.m. Secretary Clinton joins President Obama’s working lunch with Israeli President Shimon Peres, at the White House.

2:35 p.m. Secretary Clinton joins Under Secretary Burns’ meeting with Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergey Ivanov, at the Department of State.

5:45 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends a meeting at the White House.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, seen through the windows of the James Brady Press Briefing Room, walks on the White House grounds in Washington, Monday, April 4, 2011. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

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  1. Lulu permalink
    April 5, 2011 7:55 am

    12:10 p.m. Secretary Clinton joins President Obama’s working lunch with Israeli President Shimon Peres, at the White House.

    Here’s the probable itinerary:

    1. Killing the Goldstone Report once and for all

    2. Preventing the planned international flotilla from heading to Gaza in May

    3. Preventing the UN from recognizing a Palestinian state in September because the UN won’t let Israel keep all the land it stole

    4. Killing any attempt at a UN investigation into the Mari Marva

    5. Talking Obama into letting Bibi address his subjects in Congress- prime time address, both houses because after all Bibi is their real President

    6. Making sure the U.S. (and State Dept. in particular) continues to ignore Israeli violation of Palestinian children’s rights even thought it’s been document they have been terrorizing Palestinian towns by going in and kidnapping children as young as 10 at night, holding them in solitary w/o their parents knowing where they’ve been taken and not returning them for days- sometimes after having been psychologically and physically tortured.

    7. Asking for billions more US taxpayer money because after all, it’s a dangerous neighborhood and there’s nothing we won’t do for our great ally Israel.

    8. Combating any and all efforts to criticize Israel by claiming it’s an international campaign of hate and anti-semitism.

    9. Providing full diplomatic protection for Israel no matter what it does and even if it destroys our international credibility and goes against our national interest.

    10. Tacitly encouraging Israeli settlement building

    11. Finding new ways to prevent a fair solution to the Mideast conflict and finding new ways to pander to the Israel lobby

    12. Continuing to ignore the peaceful Palestinian anti-occupation movement and continue to label them “delegitimzers”

    13. Geting the seating chart ready for the AIPAC conference

    Did I miss anything? That will be a busy lunch but I’m sure Hillary is up to the task- she worked on a lot of this during her stint as senator.

  2. Thain permalink
    April 5, 2011 8:55 am

    Comprehensive list but I’d say you hit all the major points. I guess I’m wondering what Israel is going to give the United States? What do we get from them?

    It’s clear Peres is in town for a panderfest and photo op. Apparently they don’t have telephones and video conferencing in Israel. But I guess given Israel has such a long list of requests they need to do it in person.

    Did you see the State Dept. remarks about Goldstone and being “vindicated” that they were right to say that of COURSE Israel did nothing wrong during Cast Lead. Of course that’s not what the Goldstone editorial said but I guess that doesn’t matter. Same old, same old. What’s the difference between the Bush admin. and this one again?

    BTW, off topic but sort of related- did you see Obama caved on the terror trial in NY and it looks like GITMO and military tribunals are here to stay? Is there ANYTHING this guy hasn’t caved on. IT’s one thing to compromise on some things but on issues that are of constitutional and moral importance you would think he’d grow a spine and stand up for certain things. He hardly put up a fight on GITMO.

    As soon as he gets a whiff that something will be opposed, he caves. He thinks it’s bipartisanship but what it is is shameless political pandering.

    On another topic, House Foreign Affairs Committee chairwoman Ros-Lehtinen said yesterday that American Jews were angry at Obama for being mean to Israel and that’s why he’s backed off and that it’s damn right he treat Bibi with more respect! So more proof the US Jewish community is playing a totally unproductive role in helping the administration securing a deal that will protect BOTH the Israelis and Palestinians. That sh*t is getting old.

  3. Carolyn-Rodham permalink
    April 5, 2011 10:44 am

    I thought there was a whiff of hope when I read a Bronner article in the New York Times on Saturday suggesting that the US wouldn’t be able to veto the Palestinian bid for statehood when it is brought before the UN’s General Assembly in September. Then this retraction appeared yesterday:

    “An earlier version of this article incorrectly suggested that the United States would be unable to support Israel by blocking a U.N. General Assembly this September for the creation of a Palestinian state because the United States has no veto power on such a vote. States are admitted to membership in the United Nations by decision of the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council, where the United States can cast a veto vote.”

    Still, I took heart from the general tone of Bronner’s article, namely, that a Palestinian state will be recognized by more than 100 countries and, quoting Ari Shavit, “Every military base in the West Bank will be contravening the sovereignty of an independent U.N. member state…A diplomatic siege from without and a civil uprising from within will grip Israel in a stranglehold.” And I took heart from this quote from Barak last month: “We are facing a diplomatic-political tsunami that the majority of the public is unaware of and that will peak in September…It is a very dangerous situation, one that requires action…Paralysis, rhetoric, inaction will deepen the isolation of Israel.”

    I like to dream that Obama’s finally going to stand up to Israel and tell Peres there is simply no way the US can stand alone with Israel against a bloc of over 100 countries voting to recognize a Palestinian state; that he will not break ranks with the quartet when they meet in Berlin on April 15th and restate their commitment to the 1967 lines as a starting point for negotiations; and that in response to Obama’s resoluteness on these points, Netanyahu’s address to Congress in May will include a serious, workable counter-proposal.

    I can dream.

  4. April 5, 2011 11:13 am

    @Carolyn- I’d like to think you are right but personally, I’ve become disgusted with this whole thing. First of all, this administration should not reward Bibi’s total intransigence and repeated attacks on this administration by allowing him to address both houses of Congress in May.

    The fact is, the I-Lobby has made this administration believe, like every admin. before it, that if they make meaningful attempts at brokering a fair peace deal based on what you referred to- 1967 borders etc. the Jewish community will provide a political backlash against the administration. Thain is right, Ros-Lehtinen did announce that this administration has backed off Israel specifically in response to the reaction from the Jewish community. I’m sick of it. If we aren’t able to be an honest broker then lets hand it over to the UN because this is just nonsense. The Jewish community can’t have it both ways by claiming to support a two state solution and then undermining every single effort by the government to bring about a just solution. This unquestioning loyalty thing reinforces certain negative stereotypes that I would think they would want to nip in the bud. Apparently not.

    According to Haaretz he last time the Quartet met Bibi had Tony Blair and the US pressure the other members to not release a statement critical of settlements. Maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not but guess what? No statement was released and that’s unusual.

    This administration has already backed off the 1967 parameters- in the beginning they referenced it, now they don’t. They have become just as bad if not worse than the Bush admin. on this, in part because they raised expectations in the Arab world so high, only to cave at the first whiff of controversy, criticism from the usual suspects. God forbid the Democrats in Congress actually supported their POTUS on this issue.

    At this stage, I’m starting to agree with Palestinian American writer/activist Ali Abunimah- I think that maybe we should just plan for a one state solution and honestly, I don’t give a damn anymore about Israel’s demographic, ethnic purity concerns. If they are so friggin’ worried then they should stop colonizing the West Bank and E. Jerusalem and create conditions on the ground conducive to two states. But the Israeli govt is more interested in creating facts on the ground because they know at the end of the day, Congress, the Jewish community and the I-Lobby will demand those illegally confiscated lands remain in Israeli hands.

    Also, I’ll be interested to see if Secy Clinton and/or Obama speak at the AIPAC conference (I think it’s in May). If so, don’t look here for the video or transcript b/c I will not put it on this site. I am FED UP.

  5. Steve permalink
    April 5, 2011 12:14 pm

    Totally agree. It’s a disgrace. Obama has shown he has no backbone, no convictions, no principles. His speech in Cairo was really good and I had hoped that maybe for once an administration was actually going to be a good faith mediator. But nope, as soon as the Jewish community pushed back Obama caved and now things are WORSE then they have been for a long time.

    It’s about time the media start confronting Obama with all his flip flops, policy reversals etc. because there are so many. I understand that sometimes a candidate says things people want to hear but pretty much everything Obama said he stood for (or against) he’s caved on- GITMO, military tribunals, taxes for the wealthy, deep water drilling, trying some terror suspects where the crimes occurred, executive power, indefinite detentions, standing up to Wall Street, the public option, supporting labor unions, changing our Cuba policy, improving relations with Latin America- our behavior with Honduras killed that- am I missing anything? His ban on torture had an exception that largely went unreported.

    I’m not voting for him in 2012.

    • Zion permalink
      April 5, 2011 12:20 pm

      So, you’re an antisemite. That’s nice. Why don’t you STFU?

      Israel does not have to give up any of it’s land when the Palestinians do nothing for Israel but incite violence. Who sends rockets into Israel? You guys are just pissed your hero Goldstone finally woke up and saw the light- that he committed a blood libel against the Jewish community. Some of us will never forgive him.

      • Carolyn-Rodham permalink
        April 5, 2011 12:40 pm

        You know, Zion, I’d be curious to hear your proposed solution to the Israel/Palestinian conflict (I’m not optimistic one will be forthcoming). I think we are rapidly reaching a point where it is no longer in the best interest of our national security (I’m speaking of the US here) to continue allying itself with Israel no matter what. If Israel wants to continue on this self-destructive path towards total isolation in the Middle East, so be it, but the US has a chance here — by demonstrating support for the people across Northern Africa and the Middle East who seek non-violent political and economic reform — to re-establish our credibility in the Arab world, further marginalize al-Qaeda, and reduce the risk of terrorist attacks on our own soil. I wish the current Israeli government would wake up and realize which way the wind is blowing. Wish, hope, dream…but like I said, I’m not optimistic.

      • Thain permalink
        April 5, 2011 12:56 pm

        Zion said:

        So, you’re an antisemite. That’s nice. Why don’t you STFU?

        Steve’s Jewish you asshat.

        I love how people throw around the antisemitism label every time you disagree with some issue involving Israel. What’s sad is that even our own govt does that, or calls it “delegitimizing Israel” whatever the hell that means.

        You know what happens when you cry wolf too many times? When real antisemitism rears its ugly head it might be ignored because people like you use it as a political weapon.

  6. Tovah permalink
    April 5, 2011 1:56 pm

    BTW, Goldstone is now being welcomed back into Israel with open arms. Now he’s a hero. I guess he’ll be officially allowed back in the Tribe now. Maybe now they’ll let him be buried in a Jewish cemetery with his other family members?

    Someone CLEARLY got to him. I agree with Steve’s wife (I read your comment Steve the other day about what she believed happened) that he could no longer take the threats and being ostracized by the Jewish community and in particular, the impact it was likely having on his family. I guess placing the blame for all Israel’s problems on his shoulders just got to be too much. They told him he bolstered Israel’s enemies, delegitimized the state, that he may have actually played a role in Israel’s total destruction (and hence the destruction of the Jewish people).

    We’re good at guilt, just ask my mother.

    If anything this just makes us look worse. We prefer blind loyalty to Zionism over truth, ethics and morality?

    I haven’t looked at Arab media yet but I would think that they would be outraged over this?

  7. Carolyn-Rodham permalink
    April 5, 2011 8:34 pm

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if lasting peace were achieved every else in the Middle East EXCEPT between Israelis and Palestinians?

    • April 6, 2011 7:27 am

      If Israel wanted peace they would have accepted the Arab Peace Initiative or at least accepted it in large part- totally normalized relations with the Arab world- interesting that Ethan Bronner and others never think to point out that inconvenient fact- I would bet %99.9 of Americans know nothing about that. It would be very inconvenient if most Americans understood what has actually gone on.

      The Arab League offered totally normalized relations and even peace treaties if the occupation would end with an internationally recognized solution based on ’67 borders- there was probably room for some adjustments/negotiations with respect to swaps, refugees, etc. to ensure fairness to both sides but it was rejected outright by Israel (and the US).

      We essentially reward Israel with $$, weapons, and unquestioning support for being in a current state of conflict- Israel sees no incentive to creating a Palestinian state.

  8. Carolyn-Rodham permalink
    April 6, 2011 12:42 am

    Nice article about Hillary in the March 31st issue of People (or is this old news?). The only part I wasn’t crazy about? When she was quoted as saying, apparently adamently, “I’ve been on the highest tightrope of American and global politics. In two years it will be 20 years. I want to do other things…” Can’t blame her but I’d sure miss her.

  9. Tovah permalink
    April 6, 2011 8:28 am

    @stacy- I’m not really sure what game the US is playing. Given what was in the Palestine Papers about all the concessions the Palestinians offered to make, what the heck are the US and Israel waiting for? Because of the Papers, I don’t think there’s a snowbaall’s chance in hell of the US using the 1967 lines as a starting point because if they did, they would have accepted the Palestinian offers of land concessions including massive parts of E. Jerusalem.

    It sounds like the US is just trying to wear the Palestinians down. Dennis Ross, who is the Israel Lobby guy who is mainly in charge of negotiating with Israel in this admin. (and who was doing the same thing unsuccessfully in the Clinton admin) said in his book that the US policy was to go to the Israelis and see what was acceptable to them (ie. get their approval) then go to the Palestinians and pressure them to go along with it. Honest broker?

    Ross bragged in a speech to the Lobby (of which he is a key figure) that he succeeded during the Clinton years in ensuring Israel wouldn’t have to stop settlement construction during negotiations. Ross is Jewish, has dual citizenship, lives most of the time in Jerusalem and runs an organization that does not support assimilation between Jews and non-Jews (marriage). He’s the guy Obama brought on to come up with a fair solution? Please. The Palestinians have complained about Ross for years. He accuses the Palestinians of being perpetual victims- now there’s irony. Aaron David Miller, who worked with Ross on peace negotiations during the Clinton years, referred to the U.S. negotiating team as “Israel’s lawyers.” Yet the media never confronts the US with ANY of this.

    • April 6, 2011 8:55 am

      Yeah, I’m not a Dennis Ross fan. It’s so frustrating because it seems like he is just replicating the exact same failed strategy of the past and that just seems A-OK with this administration. If Obama really wanted to chart a new course in I-P negotiations, he wouldn’t have brought Ross in to essentially head them up. By all accounts, Senator George Mitchell has been sidelined by Bibi, who would rather work with the Lobby’s representative, Ross. This is what happens every single time. But we are more concerned about re-election and stroking the ego of the Lobby than in making tough political sacrifices to achieve peace.

  10. March 24, 2013 4:13 pm

    What a lovely picture of her.

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