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Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Lockerbie: lets get the facts straight, shall we?

September 7, 2009

hillary_clinton_0109In my news round-up yesterday I highlighted Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s feeble attempts to pull what amounts to a “hey, quick, look over there!”-type distraction with respect to the recent release of lockerbie terrorist, Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, when he turned on President Obama and Secretary Clinton for having been informed about al Megrahi’s release from prison. You see, UK officials are getting a lot of heat now that it appears that the “compassionate release” of al Megrahi, who has cancer, had less to do with compassion and more to do with oil and trade with Libya.

I know, shocking. Raise your hand if you didn’t see that coming.

Unfortunately, current critics of the Obama administration have joined on the “lets lash out at Obama and Clinton” bandwagon because apparently there is nothing that they won’t politicize. The problem is, they don’t really seem to have their facts straight, at least in so far as we know the facts.

Here’s the take from one such blog, Scared Monkeys, based on a story by Gateway Pundit. The Scared Monkeys post is theatrically entitled, ‘The Audacity of Disingenuous’ :

From the continuing tales of Obama, “the Audacity of Disingenuousness” … according to British sources, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton knew about the release of the Lockerbie bomber every step of the way.

Downing Street has hit back at  Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for attacking the decision to release the Lockerbie bomber.

President Obama and the US Secretary of State fuelled a fierce American backlash against Britain, claiming Abdelbaset Al Megrahi should have been forced to serve out his jail sentence in Scotland – but a senior Whitehall aide said their reaction was ‘disingenuous’.

British officials claim Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton were kept informed at all stages of discussions concerning Megrahi’s return.

How will the families of those who died in the Lockerbie bombing feel about this? They knew. I think Obama approval ratings just went down another 5 points. I cannot wait until Team Obama starts spinning this story as it all depends on what is, is. We never said we did not know what they were doing, we always said we opposed it. Mark my words, they will nuance the story.

Ok, first of all, as I said yesterday, assuming that Secretary Clinton and President Obama were informed “every step of the way” there is a big, not so subtle difference between being informed about the deliberations and agreeing with the release of al Megrahi. Never mind that the folks over at Scared Monkeys seem to accept without question the UK’s version of events but also notice how they seem to delight in the idea that the victim’s families are going to lash out at Secretary Clinton and President Obama for simply knowing about the release ahead of time, as if to suggest that they [Clinton and Obama] were supportive of the decision to release al Megrahi. And that, is preposterous.

Luckily, people like Vicky Ward are trying to get at some of the facts of this case, so lets take a look at some of them:

In Britain’s Sunday Telegraph, the British reporter Andrew Alderson claims that Libya paid three doctors to give the Scottish government medical evidence that Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, 57, the convicted Lockerbie killer, had only two or three months to live.

In fact, other doctors, according to Alderson’s report, said in June that Megrahi, who suffers from prostate cancer, could have nine months — or more — to live. But the three doctors whom Libya allegedly paid had their diagnoses included in the sealed files that Scotland refuses to open to the public, citing “privacy concerns.’

[snip]

The piece goes on to acknowledge what we already know — that though Britain’s government refuses to accept responsibility for Megrahi’s release — that Jack Straw, Britain’s Justice Minister has now stated on the record that the British were keenly aware that if Megrahi was not released trade deals worth billions, including a massive one with BP, would be canceled.
 
Alderson writes: “British businessmen were also told that plans to open a London office of the Libyan Investment Authority, a sovereign fund with $136 billion (£83billion) to invest, would be jeopardized if Megrahi died in jail.

Britain provided aid for Libya, believed to be the first since the Lockerbie bombing, when the release of Megrahi was being discussed. The £146,000 grant — which senior Tories suspect was a “sweetener” to Libya — was provided by the British Embassy in 2007-08 at the behest of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office…

Ward then follows up with another article/commentary over at HuffPo, where she takes aim at the claim that Secretary Clinton and President Obama were/are somehow complicit in all of this and I encourage anyone interested to go take a look at the whole article. Here’s an excerpt:

The British Mail on Sunday meanwhile queried America’s outrage over Megrahi’s release as being “disingenuous,” suggesting that of course Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had known all along what was cooking – as had the Department of Justice and President Obama. The paper quoted Whitehall sources as being annoyed at what they perceive as the faux reaction this side of the Atlantic. They thought it was being overdone.
My column endorsed Tory Leader David Cameron’s call for an investigation into what smells like a pyramid of intricate double-dealing, with the defiant British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on its top.

Every day that passes, with Brown refusing to acknowledge that Britain’s interests in Libya’s oil had anything to do with Megrahi’s release – while his aides leak otherwise – the more tenuous his position atop Britain looks.

[snip]

First, to deal with the Mail: According to MacAskill’s parliamentary office, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke to Scottish Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill on the phone a week before he made his decision about Megrahi on August 20th. MacAskill told Sec. Clinton he had not yet made up his mind what to do. She reiterated to him that the American position was clear. Megrahi must not be released. He had American blood on his hands. Enough to drown in. He must serve his sentence in a Scottish jail.

The two had no further contact until the day of Megrahi’s release., says MacAskill’s office. (It being a holiday here, the State department said they’d have to call back tomorrow to confirm this). MacAskill’s office says on August 20th he called the US embassy in London to say he’d be speaking in ten minutes and what he would say. Secretary Clinton publicly and privately expressed her outrage. So too did President Obama.

[snip]

Finally, to all those who would love to think that the Americans are secretly endorsing the British on this: I refer you to the spokesman in the US Justice Department this morning. “We most certainly did not know what they’d decided,” he said. He told me of a female FBI officer who had “worked very closely with the victims families and still does… when she found out, as MacAskill was speaking, that Megrahi was being released, what she had to say was unprintable.”

Vicky Ward doesn’t claim to have all the information to draw conclusions about exactly who knew what, when because obviously, not all the facts have yet come to light which is why in both articles she urges an investigation into what seems to be some double-dealing on the part of the UK. What is clear, however, is that current claims of US involvement in the underlying decision, are unfounded and I would add, politically motivated.

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  1. still4hill permalink
    September 7, 2009 4:26 pm

    What’s interesting here is that while we have not been able to track down sources of other toxic memes, this smear is from a known source, and, as you suggest, Stacy, is ready-made to be co-opted. Two things we know about Hillary Clinton is that she is consistent and honest. She does not waffle or flip-flop, and she does not lie. Her anger about this was and is genuine. Being informed does not imply power to affect.

    As far as Obama is concerned, he has not exactly been cordial to the UK from the outset. That said, even if he had been and they had taken a better liking to him, friendship is one thing, oil contracts another.

    • rachel permalink
      September 7, 2009 4:37 pm

      I can not see Hillary or Obama beign okay with lockerbie’s release.

  2. El Duende Gringo permalink
    September 7, 2009 5:57 pm

    Can we, are we willing to fully understand the entire scope of ‘terrorism?’ : video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183

    Now, when will Obama & Hillary stand up and seriously challenge the central bankers like JFK did when he signed Executive Order 11110 which began the process that was to abolish the private Federal Reserve? “Hillary, join the rest of America as they wake. The fine hearted ladies here are counting on you!”

    Before his death President Woodrow Wilson apologized the public, regretting that he had been deceived by a group of international bankers and the country’s financial system had fallen into their iron grip via the Federal Reserve act he signed in 1913:

    “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” Woodrow Wilson

    A segment from Dwight Eisenhower’s farewell speech:

    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. “ President Dwight Eisenhower

    “The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe. [As a most undesirable consequence of the war…]

    Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed.” – Abraham Lincoln

  3. dennisintn permalink
    September 7, 2009 7:36 pm

    wait a minute. hillary wouldn’t lie???? just the first thing that comes to mind is her views about obama. first he was unprepared, totally unfit to be president, and then suddenly, about the time obama made the promise to help pay her campaign debts, he instantly became the most intelligent, best prepared person in the world to be president. obama’s latest lies happened whenever he last opened his mouth. i have no problem believing the british version.
    dennisintn

    • rachel permalink
      September 7, 2009 8:07 pm

      dennisintn, if you have no problem beleiving the British version that’s fine, but you should know they lied about it not beign a trade deal with lybia. Also Hillary has told some untruths we all know that she never said he was unfit, she said she would be ready on day one. Obama also barely helped her pay anything he had to get back on the mike to ask his donors to help cause he almost “forgot”. Alot of money came from Hillary selling her email list so its not like President Obama didnt get anything out of it. In the end it doesnt matter if Obama and Hillary knew they were going to release the bomber they spoke out against it and in the end the Brits lied and protected their intrests.

      • Jen the Michigander permalink
        September 8, 2009 1:37 am

        Just to clarify– Hillary didn’t sell her email list to Obama; she sold it to the Clinton Foundation. I was on her list and I’ve never received any emails from Obama.

      • El Duende Gringo permalink
        September 8, 2009 7:59 am

        and did she sell her soul to trans-national special private interests?
        Why do you think she and Obama ditched the ENTIRE mainstream media corps last June to meet with these interests? because she sure the h— did not have your best interests in mind girls.

      • El Duende Gringo permalink
        September 12, 2009 2:18 pm

        Last June 2008

  4. pondskipper permalink
    September 7, 2009 8:11 pm

    Unfortunately an already murky affair is being made even murkier by the Parlimentary election due to be held here in Spring of 2010 and the Brown government’s desperation to halt its slide in popularity (currently 25%). The weaving and dealing of British politics is horrific to try and explain but basically the government tried to set up an al-Magrahi release via a trade inspired Prisoner Transfer Agreement as the Vicky Ward article relates. This angered the Scottish executive who knew this would play very badly for them politically but who could not block it as foreign relations are run from London and not devolved to Scotland. Then MacAskill was given the get out clause of release on compassionate grounds when al-Magrahi was diagnosed with prostrate cancer in 2008. This enabling him to resist London’s strong arm tactics and avoid an appeal by al-Magrahi that may have shown up the Scottish legal system in not too good a light as many people over here have real doubts about the correctness of his conviction. You need to remember that the Scottish National Party that controls the Scottish executive is the main rival to Labour in Scotland and Labour needs to hold all its Scottish seats to stand a chance of a majority in Parliment. (Are you still with me? Sorry, for a nation not much bigger than Texas we really complicate our government). When al-Magrahi was released Gordon Brown was on holiday and stayed silent for a week trying to create the impression that the decision was all Scotland’s and had nothing to do with the UK government despite their pushing for the PTA on trade grounds and especially the BP deal. Now of course the paper trail has led back to London and Labour’s attempt to leave the SNP to take the fall has blown up in their faces. Hence the Brown tactic of trying to distract attention as you said stacyx by pointing to Obama and Hillary. Rightwing newspapers such as the Telegraph and Mail will usually run with a ‘nasty hypocritical Americans’ story especially if it has the name Clinton attached to it but unfortunately for Brown they currently hate him even more so it will do him little good.

    • rachel permalink
      September 7, 2009 8:20 pm

      I’d like to also add the fact then brish government had to be bullied into trying to get compensation for the Brish victims of bomber.

    • September 8, 2009 12:34 pm

      Thanks for that info. Pondskipper. I don’t understand how the PTA could sway Scottish courts, though? Isn’t that undue influence on the courts because it sounds like the the Scottish justice who said his decision was made solely on legal considerations (and medical opinion), was perhaps the one who lied if all this political wheeling and dealing was going on behind the scenes. Am I missing something?

      And come on, Libya is still a terrorist supporting state but because of it’s oil we want to “improve relations”. I am so sick of the hypocrisy. You can’t buy a damn cuban cigar without breaking about 10 federal laws…oh, never mind…

  5. September 7, 2009 8:58 pm

    I have noticed that this story is getting a lot of play in the right-wing blogosphere and I’ve been commenting on some of those sites and they don’t quite “get” that the US was really not in a position to truly influence the Scottish courts other than to register their disapproval/disagreement with the mere notion of letting this guy out early- the very notion that Hillary and Obama were somehow complicit in his release is ludicrous but that hasn’t stopped the haters from literally salivating over the prospect of some huge scandal involving Obama and Hillary. Sad, really.

    I mean, look at dennisintn’s argument above- two democratic presidential candidates said negative things about each other [shocking!] and are now working together, therefore they must BOTH be untrustworthy liars. Because, you know, during the Republican primaries, GOP candidates never tried to allege they were more qualified than the other guy/gal…

    • rachel permalink
      September 7, 2009 9:10 pm

      Nope stacy that never happened with the GOP primary!! They all said they were equally qualified and they never talked about their association with other people lol. The only reason it wasn’t bloodfest with the GOP primary is because it was over so quick howlong did Rudy last? and to be honest MSM wasnt paying much attention to them it was all about Hillary and Obama most of the primary.

  6. El Duende Gringo permalink
    September 7, 2009 9:12 pm

    Wake up America….or is it too late?

  7. TruthGirl permalink
    September 8, 2009 8:54 pm

    Hi there! Interesting site following the Lady.

    From Lockerbie terrorists to 911

    Here’s an interesting play-write by Carlie Sheen.

    Charlie Sheen writing 20 Minutes with the President with Hillary in the wings all ears:

    It is obvious Hillary is aware of such matters. I think ‘Elduende’ made some very interesting points. I just watched the documentary he/she referred to. matter worth consideration I believe.

    Charlie Sheen:
    “I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation’s history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.”
    ————————————————————————————————————————

    Charlie Sheen – Good afternoon Mr. President, thank you so much for taking time out of your demanding schedule.

    President Barack Obama – My pleasure, the content of your request seemed like something I should carve out a few minutes for.

    CS – I should point out that I voted for you, as your promises of hope and change, transparency and accountability, as well as putting government back into the hands of the American people, struck an emotional chord in me that I hadn’t felt in quite some time, perhaps ever.

    PBO – And I appreciate that Charlie. Big fan of the show, by the way.

    CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited.

    PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps. (He glances at his watch) not to be abrupt or to rush you, but you have 19 minutes left.

    CS – I’ll take that as an invitation to cut to the chase.

    PBO – I’m all ears. Or so I’ve been told.

    CS – Sir, in the very near future we will be experiencing our first 9/11 anniversary with you as Commander in Chief.

    PBO – Yes. A very solemn day for our Nation. A day of reflection and yet a day of historical consciousness as well.

    CS – Very much so sir, very much so indeed…. Now; In researching your position regarding the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation that followed, am I correct to understand that you fully support and endorse the findings of the commission report otherwise known as the ‘official story’?

    PBO – Do I have any reason not to? Given that most of us are presumably in touch with similar evidence.

    CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

    PBO – I am aware of certain “in fighting” during the course of their very thorough and tireless investigative process.

    CS – Mr. President, it’s hard to label this type of friction as “in fighting” or make the irresponsible leap to “thorough,” when the evidence I insist you examine regarding 6 of the 10 members are statements of fact.
    (At this point one of Obama’s senior aides approaches the President and whispers into his ear. Obama glances quickly at his watch and nods as the aide resumes his post at the doorway, directly behind me.)

    PBO – No disrespect Mr. Sheen, but I have to ask; what is it that you seem to be implying with the initial direction of this discussion?

    CS – I am not implying anything Mr. President. I am here to present the facts and see what you plan to do with them.

    PBO – Let me guess; your ‘facts,’ allegedly supporting these claims are in the folders you brought with you?

    CS – Good guess Mr. President.
    (I hand the first folder of documents to the President)

    CS – Again sir, these are not my opinions or assumptions, this is all a matter of public record, reported through mainstream media, painstakingly fact checked and verified.
    (the President glances into the folder I handed him)

    CS – You’ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of ‘06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, “I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.”

    PBO – (as he glances down at the report, almost inaudible) …. um hmm….
    CS – He goes on to further state “The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years….”
    (the President continues to view the documents)

    CS – On pages two and three, sir, are the statements, as well, from commission co-chairmen Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, commissioners Bob Kerrey, Timothy Roemer and John Lehman, as well as the statements of commissioner Max Cleland, an ex-Senator from Georgia , who resigned, stating:
    “It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”
    He also described President Bush’s desire to delay the process as not to damage the ‘04 re-election bid. They suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation. Mr. President, this information alone is unequivocally grounds for a new investigation!

    PBO – Mistakes were clearly made but we as a people and as a country need to move forward. It is obviously in our best interest as a democratic society to focus our efforts and our resources on the future of this great nation and our ability to protect the American people and our allies from this type of terrorism in the coming years.

    CS – Sir, how can we focus on the future when THE COMMISSION ITSELF is
    on record stating that they still do not know the truth??

    PBO – Even if what you state, might in some capacity, begin to approach an open discussion or balanced debate, I can’t speak for, or about the decisions certain commission members made during an extremely difficult period. Perhaps you should be interviewing them instead of me. Wait, don’t tell me; I was easier to track down than they were?

    CS – Not exactly sir, but let’s be honest. You’re the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, the buck stops with you. 9/11 has been the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your administration is reading from the same playbook that the Bush administration foisted on America through documented secrecy and deception.

    PBO – Mr. Sheen, I’m having a difficult time sitting here and listening to you draw distorted parallels between the Bush/Cheney regime and mine.

    CS – Mr. President the parallels are not distorted just because you say they are. Let’s stick to the facts. You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of “detainees” without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration. Call me crazy Mr. President, but is this not your record?

    PBO – Mr. Sheen, my staff and I authorized this interview based on your request to discuss 9/11 and deliver some additional information you’re convinced I’d not previously reviewed. Call me crazy, But it appears as though you’ve blindly wandered off topic.

    CS – Sir, the examples I just illustrated are a direct result of 9/11.
    PBO – And I’m telling you that we must move forward, we must endure through these dangerous and politically challenging years ahead.

    CS – Mr. President, we cannot move forward with a bottomless warren of unanswered questions surrounding that day and its aftermath.

    PBO – I read the official report. Every word every page. Perhaps you should do the same.

    CS – I have sir, and so have thousands of family members of the victims, and
    guess what; they have the same questions I do and probably a lot more. I didn’t lose a loved one on that horrific day Mr. President and neither did you. But since then I, along with millions of other Americans lost something we held true and dear for most of our lives in this great country of ours; we lost our hope.

    PBO – And I’d like to believe that I am here to restore that hope. To restore confidence in your leaders, in the system that the voting public chose through a peaceful transfer of power.
    (An odd moment of silence between us. Precious time ticking away).

    CS – Mr. President, are you aware of the number of days it took to begin the investigation into JFK’s assassination?

    PBO – If memory serves I believe it was two weeks.

    CS – Close. Seventeen days to be exact. Are you aware sir, how long it took to begin the investigation into Pearl Harbor?

    PBO – I would say again about….two weeks.

    CS – Close again sir, eleven days to be exact. Are you aware Mr. President how long it took to begin the investigation into 9/11?

    PBO – I know it must have seemed like a very long time for all the grieving families.

    CS – It was a very long time Mr. President – four hundred and forty days. Roughly 14 months. Does it bother you Mr. President that it only took FIVE HOURS for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld after the initial attack to recommend and endorse a full scale offensive against Iraq?

    PBO – I am not aware of any such purported claim.

    CS – I have the proof Mr. President, along with scores of documents and facts I’d like you to take a look at. Here.
    (I hand him another file – much thicker than the first)

    PBO – I see you came prepared Charlie.

    CS – No other way to show up Mr. President. When in doubt over prepare I always say.

    PBO – Now you sound like the First Lady.

    CS – That’s quite a compliment sir.

    PBO – As you wish. Please continue.

    CS – Sir, I’d like to direct your attention to the stack of documents in the folder I just handed you. The first in from the top is entitled “ Operation Northwoods“, a declassified Pentagon plan to stage terror attacks on US soil, to be blamed on Cuba as a pretext for war.

    PBO – And I’d like to direct your attention to the fact that the principle draftsman of this improbable blueprint was quickly denied a second term as Joint Chiefs chairman and sent packing to a European NATO garrison. Thank God his otherworldly ambitions never saw the light of day.

    CS – I wouldn’t be so certain about that Mr. President.

    PBO – I could easily say the same to you Charlie.

    (the President checks his watch)

    CS – The next document reads “Declassified staged provocations.” Now, Honestly Mr. President I wish I was making this stuff up. I’m certain you are familiar with the USS Maine Incident, the sinking of the Lusitania, which we all now know brought us into WW1, and of course the most famous, the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

    PBO – Of course I am familiar with these historical events and I’m aware that there’s a measure of controversy surrounding them. But to be quite frank with you, this is all ancient history.

    CS – Mr. President, it has been often said; “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.” And I concede to you sir, these events are the past.

    PBO – A vastly different world young man, shouldering a radically disparate state of universal affairs.

    CS – No argument sir, I’m merely inviting you to acknowledge some credibility to the pattern or the theme. Case in point; the next document in your folder. It was published by the think-tank, Project For a New American Century and it’s entitled “ Rebuilding Americas Defenses“, and was written by Dick Cheney and Jeb Bush. To quote from the document sir – (the President interrupts)

    PBO – “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

    CS – Touche, sir. Your thoughts on this statement Mr. President?

    PBO – I would call this a blatant case of misjudgment fueled by an unfortunate
    milieu of assumption. For some, the uninformed denial of coincidence.

    CS – Interesting angle sir. Nevertheless, Vice President Cheney didn’t stop there. In early 2008, Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh and MSNBC, both reported that Cheney had proposed to the Pentagon an outrageous plan to have the U.S. Navy create fake Iranian patrol boats, to be manned by Navy Seals, who would then stage an attack on US destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz. This event was to be blamed on Iran and used as a pretext for war. Does any of this information worry you Mr. President? Should we just ignore it, until these realities can be dismissed years from now by our children, as ancient history as well?

    PBO – Of course this information worries me, yet it’s not nearly as worrisome as you sitting here today suspiciously implying that 9/11 was somehow allowed to happen or even orchestrated from the inside.

    CS – Mr. President I am not suspiciously implying anything. I am merely exposing the documents and asking the questions that nobody in power will even look at or acknowledge. And as I stated earlier, I voted for you, I believed in your message of hope and change. Mr. President I have come to you specifically hoping for a change. A change in the perception that our government has not yet made itself open and accountable to the people. These are your words Mr. President not mine. The lives of thousands were brutally cut short and those left behind to suffer their infinite pain are with me today Mr. President. They are with me in spirit and flesh, and the message we carry will not be silenced anymore by media fueled mantras insisting how they are supposed to feel. Deciding for them, for 8 long years, what can be thought, what can be said, what can be asked.

    PBO – And I appreciate your passion, I appreciate your conviction. In spite of your concerns, in spite of what your data might or might not reveal, what you and the families must understand and accept is that we are doing everything we can to protect you.

    CS – Mr. President , I realize were very short on time, so please allow me to run down a list of bullet points that might illuminate some reasons why we don’t embrace the warm hug of Federal protection.

    PBO – We’ve come this far. Fire away.

    CS – Please keep in mind Mr. President everything I’m about to say is documented as fact and part of the public record. The information you are holding in your hands chronicles and verifies each and every point.

    PBO – You have five minutes left. The floor is yours. Brief me.

    CS – Thank you Mr. President. Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.

    CS – Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.

    CS – Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

    WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

    CS – Number 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.

    CS – Number 5; On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.
    Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

    CS – Number 6; Three F-16s assigned to Andrews Air Force Base, ten miles from Washington, DC, are conducting training exercises in North Carolina 207 miles away as the first plane crashes into the WTC. Even at significantly less than their top speed of 1500 mph, they could still have defended the skies over Washington well before 9am, more than 37 minutes before Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, however, they did not return until after 9:55am.
    Andrews AFB had no armed fighters on alert and ready to take off on the morning of 9/11.

    CS – Number 7; WTC Building 7. Watch the video of its collapse.

    CS – Number 8; Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.
    Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power. Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.

    CS – Number 9; Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified.

    CS – Number 10; In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.
    As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”

    CS – Number 11 – Hundreds of eye witnesses including first responders, fire captains, news reporters, and police, all described multiple explosions in both towers before and during the collapse.

    CS – Number 12; An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows BBC News correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. Tapes from earlier BBC broadcasts show news anchors discussing the collapse of WTC 7 a full 26 minutes in advance. The BBC at first claimed that their tapes from 9/11 had been “lost” before admitting that they made the “error” of reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened without adequately explaining how they could have obtained advance knowledge of the event.
    In addition, over an hour before the collapse of WTC 7, at 4:10pm, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that the building “has either collapsed, or is collapsing.”

    CS – Number 13; Solicitor General Ted Olson’s claim that his wife Barbara Olsen called him twice from Flight 77, describing hijackers with box cutters, was a central plank of the official 9/11 story.
    However, the credibility of the story was completely undermined after Olsen kept changing his story about whether his wife used her cell phone or the airplane phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. American Airlines confirmed that Flight 77 was a Boeing 757 and that this plane did not have airplane phones on board.

    According to the FBI, Barbara Olsen attempted to call her husband only once and the call failed to connect, therefore Olsen must have been lying when he claimed he had spoken to his wife from Flight 77.

    CS – Number 14; The size of a Boeing 757 is approximately 125ft in width and yet images of the impact zone at the Pentagon supposedly caused by the crash merely show a hole no more than 16ft in diameter. The engines of the 757 would have punctured a hole bigger than this, never mind the whole plane. Images before the partial collapse of the impact zone show little real impact damage and a sparse debris field completely inconsistent with the crash of a large jetliner, especially when contrasted with other images showing airplane crashes into buildings.

    CS – Number 15; What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by then Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

    During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, “The plane is 50 miles out.” “The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to “the plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the Vice President, “Do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”
    As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated, are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

    CS – Number 16; In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to “avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report,” particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

    CS – Number 17; Top Pentagon officials cancelled their scheduled flights for September 11th on September 10th. San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, following a security warning, cancelled a flight into New York that was scheduled for the morning of 9/11.

    CS – Number 18; The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004, and even by that point it was only in the trial phase. Calls from cell phones which formed an integral part of the official government version of events were technologically impossible at the time.

    CS – Number 19: On April 29, 2004, President Bush and V.P. Cheney would only meet with the commission under specific clandestine conditions. They insisted on testifying together and not under oath. They also demanded that their testimony be treated as a matter of “state secret.” To date, nothing they spoke of that day exists in the public domain.

    CS – And finally Mr. President – Number 20; A few days after the attack, several newspapers as well as the FBI reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC. In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

    At least a third of the WTC victim’s bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.
    (The Senior aide appears again beside the President whispering in his ear. He then quickly moves off).

    PBO – Well Charlie I can’t say this hasn’t been interesting. As I said earlier you’ve showed up today focused and organized. Regardless how I feel about the material you’ve presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up.
    (the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

    CS – Mr. President! One more second!
    (The President starts towards the door – I follow him quickly step for step).

    CS – Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President –
    (He pauses. We shake hands).

    CS – Make sure you’re on the right side of history.
    (The President breaks the handshake).

    PBO – I am on the right side of history. Thank you Charlie, my staff and I will be in touch.

    (I watch as he strides gracefully out of the room, the truth I provided him held firmly by his side; in the hand of providence.)

  8. El Duende Gringo permalink
    September 9, 2009 7:02 am

    I finally found data on Charlie Sheen’s ‘interview’ with Obama, though it is nowhere mentioned that Hillary was close, but we’re sure that any such conversation would eventually be known to The Secretary of State and the Vice President…..TruthGirl, as you might know, that interview was fictional, a script, though packed-loaded with facts.

  9. September 12, 2009 5:51 am

    At the present moment Scottish Justice Secretary, Kenny MacAskill, is considering the release of the full report of the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission of which only the summary has previously been released. That summary refers to 6 reasons why a miscarriage of justice may have occurred. A miscarriage of justice would mean that victims were not only those who died but also their families and al Megrahi himself.

    ‘THE LOCKERBIE CASE’, a blog by Professor Robert Black, QC, FRSE (often referred to as the ‘architect’ of the Camp Zeist trial) –

    http://lockerbiecase.com/.

    Go to –

    http://www.freewebs.com/fbiblog/

    ‘FBI CHIEF TERRORIST’

    Read paragraph 2).

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